{"id":431,"date":"2010-08-06T23:29:52","date_gmt":"2010-08-06T23:29:52","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/nogreaterjoychildren.wordpress.com\/?p=431"},"modified":"2010-08-06T23:29:52","modified_gmt":"2010-08-06T23:29:52","slug":"why-spank-well-it-works-embarrassment-is-a-powerful-tool","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.childhoodrevered.com\/sentient\/parenting\/2010\/08\/why-spank-well-it-works-embarrassment-is-a-powerful-tool\/","title":{"rendered":"Why Spank? Well, It Works. Embarrassment is a Powerful Tool"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>Yesterday I received a comment related to the <a href=\"http:\/\/nogreaterjoychildren.wordpress.com\/2010\/03\/20\/spanking-bare-bottom\/\" target=\"_self\">Bare Bottom Spanking<\/a> post that has me thinking beyond my initial response to the father that sent the comment. \u00a0I have copied in the conversation below, but want to add a few additional thoughts on this subject before letting it snooze for a while.<\/div>\n<div>Concerning the subject of humiliation as it relates to development of the very young through to adulthood, I want to offer you a few morsels to chew on.<\/div>\n<div>Here is an excellent site, and one that I encourage any of you who might struggle with some of the issues on either side of the wall to take a look at. \u00a0(Click the title link for source)<\/div>\n<div style=\"padding-left:30px;\">\n<p><span style=\"font-family:Arial;\"><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/eqi.org\/eabuse1.htm\" target=\"_blank\">What is Emotional Abuse?<\/a><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:x-small;\">Abuse is any behavior that is designed to control and subjugate another human being through the use of fear, humiliation, intimidation, guilt, coercion, manipulation etc. Emotional abuse is any kind of abuse that is emotional rather than physical in nature. It can include anything from verbal abuse and constant criticism to more subtle tactics, such as repeated disapproval or even the refusal to ever be pleased.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:x-small;\">Emotional abuse is like brain washing in that it systematically wears away at the victim&#8217;s self-confidence, sense of self-worth, trust in their own perceptions, and self-concept. Whether it is done by constant berating and belittling, by intimidation, or under the guise of &#8220;guidance,&#8221; &#8220;teaching&#8221;, or &#8220;advice,&#8221; the results are similar. Eventually, the recipient of the abuse loses all sense of self and remnants of personal value. Emotional abuse cuts to the very core of a person, creating scars that may be far deeper and more lasting that physical ones. In fact there is research to this effect. With emotional abuse, the insults, insinuations, criticism and accusations slowly eat away at the victim&#8217;s self-esteem until she is incapable of judging the situation realistically. She has become so beaten down emotionally that she blames\u00a0<em>herself<\/em> for the abuse. Her self-esteem is so low that she clings to the abuser.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:x-small;\">Emotional abuse victims can become so convinced that they are worthless that they believe that no one else could want them. They stay in abusive situations because they believe they have nowhere else to go. Their ultimate fear is being all alone.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>My interpretation of spanking a child is to force the will of the person who wields greater physical strength and a faster intellect than the child entrusted to their care. \u00a0To spank does not solve a problem, does not teach wisdom or deliver knowledge. \u00a0To spank stops an annoyance, teaches fear response, and closes the door on a willing spirit to learn (both of the parent and the child). \u00a0It serves to do nothing but give the adult some immediate satisfaction that they&#8217;ve done something to correct the issue at hand, but they have not. \u00a0Though it may seem as though this has been achieved, it is simply a facade. \u00a0When we use violence, physical or emotional, verbal or nonverbal, we instill our children with the need to develop response systems that provide them with some sort of self protection and survivability. \u00a0This is the complete opposite from teaching respect, appreciation, wonder, confidence, responsibility, and love.<\/div>\n<div>Today I feel like I am banging my head against a wall because of how obvious it is to me that violence begets violence, regardless of the intensity level. \u00a0Yet, so many are completely unable to see this. \u00a0I think I might have an inkling of an idea what Magellan must have felt when trying to explain to the\u00a0populous\u00a0that the earth is indeed a sphere and no, we won&#8217;t fall of the edge if we keep going.<\/div>\n<div>I&#8217;ll try to write more later tonight.<\/div>\n<div style=\"padding-left:30px;\"><em>Take a look at this article, somewhat inserted here but you&#8217;ll need to visit the site.<br \/>\n(Source is Title Link) <\/em><\/div>\n<h2><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.emotionalcompetency.com\/humiliation.htm\" target=\"_blank\">Humiliation<\/a><\/strong><br \/>\n<em> <\/em><\/h2>\n<h5><em>No one likes being treated like dirt<br \/>\n<\/em><\/h5>\n<div>You have been insulted, your ego is bruised, your\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.emotionalcompetency.com\/pride.htm\">pride<\/a> is hurt, you have been show powerless and diminished in some way, and now you are hurt and\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.emotionalcompetency.com\/anger.htm\">mad<\/a> as hell! You have just been humiliated, it is unfair, and you don&#8217;t like feeling foolish. Humiliation often results in violent retaliation and\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.emotionalcompetency.com\/revenge.htm\">revenge<\/a>.<\/div>\n<div>Remember, at the end of the day, the only opinion of yourself that matters is your own.<\/div>\n<h4>Definitions:<\/h4>\n<ol>\n<li>Feeling\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.emotionalcompetency.com\/respect.htm\">disrespected<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>A loss of\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.emotionalcompetency.com\/stature.htm\">stature <\/a>or image.<\/li>\n<li>An image change reflecting a decrease in what others believe about your stature.<\/li>\n<li>Induced\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.emotionalcompetency.com\/shame.htm\">shame<\/a><\/li>\n<li>To reduce the\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.emotionalcompetency.com\/pride.htm\">pride<\/a> or fail to recognize the\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.emotionalcompetency.com\/dignity.htm\">dignity<\/a> of another<\/li>\n<li>An event perceived to cause loss of honor and induce\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/emotionalcompetency.com\/shame.htm\">shame<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>Feeling powerless.<\/li>\n<li>Being unjustly forced into a degrading position.<\/li>\n<li>Ridicule, scorn, contempt or other treatment at the hands of others<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>Root: from Latin\u00a0<tt>humilis<\/tt>,\u00a0<em>low, lowly<\/em>, from\u00a0<tt>humus<\/tt>,\u00a0<em>ground<\/em>. Literally, \u201creducing to dirt\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Synonyms include losing face, being made to feel like a fool, feeling foolish, hurt, disgraced, indignity, put-down, debased,\u00a0dejected, denigrated, dishonored, disrespected, dis&#8217;ed, defamed, humbled, scorned, slighted, slurred, shamed, mortified, rejected, being laughed at. While humility is considered a strength, humiliation is hurtful; the distinction\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.emotionalcompetency.com\/belief.htm#Flipping\">pivots<\/a> on\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.emotionalcompetency.com\/motivation.htm\">autonomy<\/a>.<\/p>\n<div>\n<p><em>Appreciation<\/em> is the opposite of humiliation.<\/p>\n<p>Humiliation involves an event that demonstrates unequal\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.emotionalcompetency.com\/power.htm\">power<\/a> in a relationship where you are in the inferior position and unjustly diminished. Often the painful experience is vividly remembered for a long time. Your\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.emotionalcompetency.com\/forgiveness.htm#vindictive\">vindictive passions<\/a> are aroused and a humiliated\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.emotionalcompetency.com\/anger.htm\">fury<\/a> may result. There are three involved parties: 1) the perpetrator exercising power, 2) the victim who is shown powerless and therefore humiliated, and 3) the witness or observers to the event.<\/p>\n<p>Because of the powerlessness and lack of control that it exposes, humiliation may lead to\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.emotionalcompetency.com\/anxiety.htm\">anxiety<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><em><a name=\"Humility\"><\/a><\/em> is recognizing and accepting our own limitations based on an accurate and modest estimate of our importance and significance. The\u00a0<em>humble<\/em> person recognizes he is one among the six billion\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.emotionalcompetency.com\/reciprocity.htm\">interdependent<\/a>people on this earth, earth is one planet circling the sun, and our sun is one of a billion stars in the presently known universe. Because of this broad and sound perspective on her significance, the truly humble person cannot be humiliated.<\/p>\n<p>Humility reduces our need for\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.emotionalcompetency.com\/distortions.htm\">self-justification<\/a> and allows us to admit to and learn from our mistakes. Our ego\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.emotionalcompetency.com\/self.htm#Detaching\">stands down<\/a>.<\/p>\n<h2>Humiliation and Shame<\/h2>\n<p>The essential distinction between humiliation and shame is this: you agree with shame and you disagree with humiliation. Humiliation is suffering an insult. If you judge the insult to be credible, then you feel\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.emotionalcompetency.com\/shame.htm\">shame<\/a>. Others can insult and humiliate you, but you will only feel shame if your\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.emotionalcompetency.com\/self.htm#appraisals\">self-image<\/a> is reduced; and that requires your own assessment and decision. A person who is insecure about their genuine\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.emotionalcompetency.com\/stature.htm\">stature <\/a>is more prone to feeling shame as a result of an insult. This is because they give more credibility to what others think of them than to what they think of themselves. This can result in\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.emotionalcompetency.com\/self.htm#appraisals\">fragile self-esteem<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>People believe they deserve their shame, they do not believe they deserve their humiliation. Humiliation is seen as unjust.<\/p>\n<h2>Forms of Humiliation<\/h2>\n<p>Humans have many ways to slight others and humiliate them. For example:<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<ul>\n<li>Overlooking someone, taking them for granted, ignoring them, giving them the silent treatment, treating them as invisible, or making them wait unnecessarily for you,<\/li>\n<li>Rejecting someone, holding them distant, abandoned, or isolated,<\/li>\n<li>Withholding acknowledgement, denying recognition, manipulating recognition,<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li>Domination, control, manipulation, abandonment,<\/li>\n<li>Threats or abuse including: verbal (e.g. name calling), physical, psychological, or sexual,<\/li>\n<li>Assault, attack, or injury<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.emotionalcompetency.com\/trust.htm\">Betrayal<\/a>, or being cheated, lied to, defrauded, suckered, or duped,<\/li>\n<li>Losing a\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.emotionalcompetency.com\/dominancecontest.htm\">dominance contest<\/a>. Being forced to submit.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li>Having safety or security reduced by intimidation or threat,<\/li>\n<li>Dismissing, discounting, or silencing your story,<\/li>\n<li>Losing basic personal freedoms such a mobility, access, or autonomy; being controlled, dominated, intruded on, exploited, or manipulated,<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<div>The list goes on. \u00a0See the article here -&gt; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.emotionalcompetency.com\/humiliation.htm\" target=\"_blank\">S O U R C E<\/a><\/div>\n<hr \/>\n<blockquote>\n<div>(from) Mark<\/div>\n<div>August 5, 2010 7:01 pm<\/div>\n<p>As a child who was spanked and later as a parent who has chosen to spank, I see nothing sexual about spanking. What made spanking effective as a discipline tool for me as a child is its dramatic nature. Grounding may ultimately hurt many children worse. However, telling me I was going to be grounded carried nowhere near the emotional connotation for me as hearing that I was going to get a spanking. When I heard that I would be spanked, my throat would get tight and I would feel genuine fear.<\/p>\n<p>I have tried to resort to other punishments for my own children besides spanking for several reasons. First, any punishment that is used too much becomes ineffective. Second, I would prefer to discipline without using the kind of physical force necessary when you spank. Three, I would prefer to give out a punishment that doesn\u2019t leave my children crying.<\/p>\n<p>Even so, I have found a couple of situations as a parent that I felt really called for a spanking. One involved a situation when my eight year old son insisted on playing with firecrackers and a friend when he had been told not to do so. Another involved a situation with the same son a couple of years later where he took a spray paint can and with the help of two friends sprayed some bad words on the wall of a house that was for sale. His misconduct here involved lying about where he was and taking a spray paint can from an open garage of a neighbor. Other discipline was used as well. However, I felt nothing could have conveyed my message as effectively as an over-the-knee spanking of his butt.<\/p>\n<p>I disagree with bare butt spanking. Its unnecessary. I have taken down their pants though and spanked them in their underwear. It preserves their modesty and still causes enough embarrassment that they think long and hard about what they\u2019ve done.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<div>I applaud this father for his choice to speak, to describe, and to add his insight. \u00a0And I want to encourage further conversation on the subject matter from all of you.<\/div>\n<div>Here is my very long winded reply \u00a0&#8211;<\/div>\n<div>\n<blockquote><p>Hi Mark,<\/p>\n<p>Thank you for your remarks and insight. It is encouraging to hear the voice of a father who is actively parenting his children. I want to take the opportunity to reply to your thread because I think it raises a couple of interesting and thought provoking concepts.<\/p>\n<p>First, I\u2019d like to address your concluding remarks on the effectiveness of embarrassment as punishment, and the long and far reaching effects it has on children, and adults. I\u2019m going to site a few articles and tie together a couple thoughts on the subject; I welcome responses.<\/p>\n<p>Please review the following posts\/articles:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.slideshare.net\/srjojofma\/psychological-effects-of-corporal-punishment-manuscript3\" target=\"_blank\">Corporal Punishment, Psychological Effects<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/nogreaterjoychildren.wordpress.com\/2010\/08\/06\/you-get-obedience-what-does-your-kid-get\" target=\"_blank\">Obtaining Obedience at What Cost<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/nogreaterjoychildren.wordpress.com\/2010\/08\/06\/humiliation-%E2%80%93-far-reaching-effects-on-children-adults%C2%A0society\">The Long Fingers that Dig Deep<\/a><\/p>\n<p>________________________________<br \/>\n\u201cChildren should not be the scapegoats of adults\u2019 painful experiences. The claim that mild punishments (slaps or smacks) have no detrimental effects is still widespread because we got this message very early from our parents who had taken it over from their own parents. This conviction helped the child to minimize his suffering and to endure it. Unfortunately, the main damage it causes is precisely our numbness as well as the lack of sensitivity for our children\u2019s pain. The result of the broad dissemination of this damage is that each successive generation is subjected to the tragic effects of seemingly harmless \u201ccorrection\u201d. Many parents still think: What didn\u2019t hurt me can\u2019t hurt my child. They don\u2019t realize that their conclusion is wrong because they never challenged their assumption.\u201d\u00a0<a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/nogreaterjoychildren.wordpress.com\/2010\/08\/06\/you-get-obedience-what-does-your-kid-get\/)\">S O U R C E<\/a><\/p>\n<p>__________________________________<br \/>\nNext, I\u2019d like to draw a connection for some of you that perhaps you\u2019ve not yet considered. The act of punishing our children\u2019s deeds by use of spanking, grounding, or time out is something that doesn\u2019t make sense to me because the consequence has nothing to do with the offense. Let me paint a picture for you that addresses this concept from one angle.<\/p>\n<p>Our judicial system is full of people who have done something that the community views as wrong. They\u2019re stuck in a cell, and our taxes basically keep them out of our way because of what they have done. Most of them will never have to confront the victim of their wrong doing, nor will they be expected to make reparation. And if reparation is ordered it is very unlikely it will have any direct correlation to the actual crime they committed, and even less chance that the offender will be expected to make any personal reparation to their victim. This lack of expectation of one to take personal responsibility has a lot to do with a given individual\u2019s propensity to continue to commit crimes throughout his or her life.<\/p>\n<p>There is a movement among some judicial systems to pave a path of justice and reparation, instead of simply trapping the offender. In Colorado, there is a group called Restorative Justice and their goal is to cause offenders to take personal responsibility, make personal reparation, and ultimately reintegrate into the community a whole person who is then capable of not continuing in their ways of difficulty because they wholly understand what harm it does. In the few cases where the individual is unable to rehabilitate and reintegrate satisfactorily, the typical judicial recourses are employed and basically, the system gives up on them.<\/p>\n<p>My contention is that spanking, grounding, and other forms of punishment (this is not discipline, these are punishments) are ineffective in the long run because they are in essence no better than sticking the offender in a box and saying, \u201cYou did something bad, now sit here and think about it until the judge thinks you\u2019ve thought long enough.\u201d And how will that judge know? Recommendations from those who control this individual\u2019s every move. They see how the individual responds and chooses to behave in this controlled environment with instant psychological and sometimes physical consequences that sometimes fit their actions. Further, the judge asks the person what he\u2019s been thinking about while stuck in this box and told to think, which if he had done in the first place, he wouldn\u2019t have been stuck in the box in the first place\u2026 so if he\u2019d been able to figure things out properly on his own then, or after his incarceration, we wouldn\u2019t have repeat offenders.<\/p>\n<p>This, alas, is not how it works most of the time. In my opinion, we treat offenders much in the same way parents who use certain forms of punishment do. Natural consequences don\u2019t apply, authority derived and determined punishments are instead delivered. And the only connection the offender is allowed to conclude is the authority figure decided I did something wrong, so they\u2019re going to punish me in a way that satisfies them, but doesn\u2019t necessarily have anything to do with whatever I did, oh and it will humiliate me, which is the only thing I will remember (unless there is physical pain), but chances are I\u2019ll forget what that humiliation was really for\u2026 just that on that day, I lost another piece of me and my self-confidence.<\/p>\n<p>_________________________<br \/>\nThat said, I want to just throw out a couple of alternative ideas regarding the two incidents you described where you felt it appropriate to spank your son:<\/p>\n<p>For the offense of playing with fireworks after having been warned against it, AND after (your son) having been informed of the reasons for the warning (i.e., dangers to self, to others, to property \u2013 not just because mom\/dad said so), I submit the child be taken for a session of volunteering at the Burn Unit at Children\u2019s hospital. Such an event will offer the offending child a very real world and tangible experience to call upon when decided whether to involve himself with the play of fireworks in the future. And if you can get the other child\u2019s parents to agree, have them both go at least twice. (Note: Discussing the situation with the adult coordinators in advance of arriving to volunteer, and in the absence of your child, will allow you to censor appropriately for your child\u2019s age and sensabilities.)<\/p>\n<p>This sort of experience gives the kids the chance to make the very real connection what fire and like items can do to a human child, and they won\u2019t forget what they learn. They will have the opportunity to turn the experience into good for the community as well. Instead of humiliation they will gain wisdom and a sense of pride for their contribution and new found knowledge. This is something useful for your future and theirs, and in ways that may not be immediately obvious.<\/p>\n<p>Responding with this sort of discpline allows you, the parent, to gain the same end result you\u2019re after \u2013 the kids stop being careless with really dangerous stuff. They, the children, grow in maturity, wisdom, compassion, and self control, instead of learning how to play the game better and just not get caught the next time.<\/p>\n<p>It is then the continued responsibility of the parent to enforce the experience by discussing any concerns or thoughts the child might have, perhaps facilitating a friendship between your child and one that has suffered a burn (if there is a need for an ongoing reminder of real world consequences).<\/p>\n<p>I realize this sounds like a ton of work and time commitment for the parent, and how much easier would it be to get your way by spanking once, and assuming the humiliation will sit long enough that they\u2019ll not commit the same offense ever again. But you and I both know that the moment your son is old enough to stare that humiliation in the face and turn it back on you in rebellion, and the moment he\u2019s old enough to figure out how to control his time and resources (I wager, about 14 years of age), he will again do exactly what you have insisted he not. He will do it because of his curiosity that has been intensified by it being put off limits, and because he is strong enough to reject the humiliation you put on him. He may also be reluctant every year the country uses fireworks as a celebration, and may not understand why he has these feelings, but you will know that they stem from the humiliation that his mind unconsciously attaches to the objects.<\/p>\n<p>Alternately, he will never challenge you and will follow in blind obedience, and our world will have another drone.<\/p>\n<p>Forgive me for my bluntness, but if you\u2019ve read any of my posts, you\u2019re probably well aware of it already.<\/p>\n<p>Concerning the spray paint incident\u2026 My gut reaction is that your son is acting in a pattern and if it were me, I\u2019d be trying very hard to figure out what was behind\/beneath his actions (say, perhaps any\/all of the wrong doings over the last 5 years) and address the source before I did anything else (literally, before dinner, before tomorrow, whatever). However, as a response to the incident, instead of spanking him and telling him that I, the authority figure, disapproved of his choices, I\u2019d again allow real world consequences to prevail, and real world lessons to be learned.<\/p>\n<p>In the event that my child made the decision to be so disrespectful of another\u2019s property, I would begin by asking him just that, \u201cWhy do you think it is you don\u2019t have more respect for these people, and the things they have that matter to them?\u201d Then, I would listen to his response. Very intently. I would continue to ask him questions that encouraged his thoughts and feelings, and at each response I would not respond with my own, but acknowledge his words and remember well what he is communicating (and what isn\u2019t successfully being transmitted, but is there nonetheless).<\/p>\n<p>Then, I would explain to my child that he must make reparation for the damage he chose to cause. Further, I would plainly inform my child, in the presence of the other child, that they have both made decisions that are now going to prevent them from spending unsupervised time together for the forseeable future. Then, I would inform him that his reparation would incude him either cleaning the marks off the house himself, or if that was not possible, he would join the professional and do whatever the professional would have him do to repair the damage. If new siding or something similar were necessary, he would offer whatever money he had to pay for it. He and I would take our time to help the home owner obtain whatever supplies they might need, and do any of the work they\u2019d allow us to do to repair (us, yes us, meaning my offending child and me, the parent ultimately responsible). If my son\u2019s funds were insufficient and mine had to be tapped, my son would be in my debt and he would commence working whatever was necessary to gain the real money necessary to repay me.<\/p>\n<p>My son would be as present as the owners would allow, and if they wouldn\u2019t allow it, he\u2019d be at the next Habitat for Humanity opportunity, or something similar, doing the same physical work related to building\/caring for a house. AND it would be his hands that would hurt because of a splinter, having to grip a hammer for a long time, or whatever other discomfort just comes along with that sort of work (hot sun, standing for a long time, carrying heavy stuff back and forth, tending to the needs of the grown ups who can do what he cannot, etc).<\/p>\n<p>Additionally, for the second part of his offense, his room would be left open for strangers to come visit during a garage sale (this would be a surprise to him). If there were many valuable items that would cost me, I would prearrange a visit from some neighbors that he didn\u2019t know, and ask them to take what they wish from a selection of items that will get the point across to him, but not hurt my pocket. And no, I would not then replace the items out of my own pocket.<\/p>\n<p>Finally, I would address what was behind his choice of words. What satisfaction did he gain from the selection of words he chose? Does he perhaps harbor some resentment toward these people?? Has he made some sort of judgement of them and felt the need to passively tell them? Were these words specifically \u201ctaboo\u201d according to his parents, and therefore if he managed to not get caught, would the resulting level of satisfaction and passive statement made be worth the risk?<\/p>\n<p>When our children act out, whatever their age, we must take a moment to look inward. Chances are, there is something there we could improve, change, or cease that would make a difference in our children. However, the younger they are when we take this responsibility and awareness upon ourselves, the better chance for success and well developed children in their older years.<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; I was three years old when my mother first spanked me, and I lost a considerable amount of respect for her intelligence and compassion that day. I had lied about taking some stickers off the refrigerator, and as a result I was forced to endure the humiliation of being bent over her knee. I complied, I complained, and I learned that next time either lie better or don\u2019t get caught. Did I mention I was three?<\/p>\n<p>The kicker was that I didn\u2019t know ahead of taking the stickers that it would matter, but when my mom confronted me I sensed that she thought what I had done was wrong, so I responded because I didn\u2019t want to feel her disapproval. Even though I hadn\u2019t intentionally disobeyed an order or expectation, I knew I would suffer her disapproval anyway if I fessed up. So, my tiny 3 years of experience prevailed and in my effort to not have her disapprove of something I had done with no malicious or rebellious intent, I figured my best option was to pretend I didn\u2019t know what she was talking about thereby preventing her disapproval of ME specifically. I hoped that she would just be sad that the stickers weren\u2019t there anymore and leave it at that\u2026 and maybe give me a chance to return them since it had become apparent it mattered to her.<\/p>\n<p>No such luck. She cornered me, I lied, she countered, I gave in, she spanked me, I was humiliated, she tried to reconcile, I rejected her, she left me alone, I drew my own conclusions and you know what, I don\u2019t give a hoot about stickers anymore \u2013 they annoy me. Now, my two year old loves them and sticks them everywhere! My mother uses them as a reward and gift for her grand daughter. I think it\u2019s great because it\u2019s an activity they mutually enjoy and share untarnished between the two of them. But you will never find a single sticker or even a magnet that resembles one on my fridge, as it would serve as a reminder of a dark and brooding feeling inside of me that turned to resentment toward my mother. A small amount of resentment, perhaps, but there just the same.<\/p>\n<p>That was the one and only time my mother ever spanked me. Maybe she was wiser than I thought she was.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<hr \/>\n<h3><span style=\"color:#000066;\"><a title=\"What is Discipline\" href=\"http:\/\/www.teach-through-love.com\/parenting-discipline.html\" target=\"_blank\">Parenting Disciplin (Source of below quote -&gt;)<\/a><\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Merriam-Webster&#8217;s dictionary lists the definition of\u00a0<em>discipline<\/em> as:<\/p>\n<p>1. punishment<\/p>\n<p>2.\u00a0<em><strong>obsolete:<\/strong><\/em> instruction<\/p>\n<p>3. a field of study<\/p>\n<p>4. training that corrects, molds, or perfects the mental faculties or moral character<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Why is\u00a0<em>punishment<\/em> listed as the first definition and the Latin root meaning<strong><em>to teach<\/em><\/strong> has become obsolete?<\/p>\n<p>I suspect that this description perfectly mirrors our current parenting paradigm in which generation after generation has passed down parenting discipline advice and techniques based on cycles of punishments and rewards, dangling carrots and taking away privileges and love in an attempt to modify behavior. This philosophy of discipline has not taken us very far.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Yesterday I received a comment related to the Bare Bottom Spanking post that has me thinking beyond my initial response to the father that sent the comment. \u00a0I have copied in the conversation below, but want to add a few additional thoughts on this subject before letting it snooze for a while. 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